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Honda Accord AC leak

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I have a 2011 Honda Accord. The AC worked fine until last summer (2024) and it completely stopped working this May. Refrigerant was put in with dye by auto shop. After 12 days, leak was found at the high side line where it meets the condenser (please see photo below). Could the leak be due to a leaky o-ring? I was told that the leak is likely at the condenser assembly itself instead of the o-ring. Thanks.
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Re: Honda Accord AC leak

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Using a pair of UV goggles and special light in a darkened garage, if you see traces of dye coming from the condenser, you'll have to replace it, along with the receiver/dryer, which might be integral with the condenser.

Likewise, if you see dye coming from the mating surfaces of the "peanut" connector and condenser, the leak might be from a defective o-ring.

In either case, you'll have to recover the existing refrigerant (if any), evacuate, and recharge the system to the manufacturer's specifications, or have it done by a qualified shop.
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Re: Honda Accord AC leak

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aerosol wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:23 pm Refrigerant was put in with dye by auto shop. After 12 days, leak was found at the high side line where it meets the condenser (please see photo below). Could the leak be due to a leaky o-ring? I was told that the leak is likely at the condenser assembly itself instead of the o-ring.
The AC shop cannot 100% tell whether the O-ring or condenser is bad, and knows that if they replace the condenser and the O-ring that you/customer will have cold air.

The shop doesn't want to gamble with YOUR money that only the O-ring needs to be replaced.

I will say - since I do have my own equipment and do my own labor - that if this was my personal vehicle I would try the replacement O-ring first.
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JohnHere wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:13 pm Using a pair of UV goggles and special light in a darkened garage, if you see traces of dye coming from the condenser, you'll have to replace it, along with the receiver/dryer, which might be integral with the condenser.

Likewise, if you see dye coming from the mating surfaces of the "peanut" connector and condenser, the leak might be from a defective o-ring.

In either case, you'll have to recover the existing refrigerant (if any), evacuate, and recharge the system to the manufacturer's specifications, or have it done by a qualified shop.
Thank you. The spot shown in the photo is the only place where leak (dye) was found. I thought a bad o-ring is probably the culprit, but the shop told me "leak is likely at the condenser assembly itself instead of the o-ring" and provided me a quote.
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Re: Honda Accord AC leak

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Cusser wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:29 am
aerosol wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:23 pm Refrigerant was put in with dye by auto shop. After 12 days, leak was found at the high side line where it meets the condenser (please see photo below). Could the leak be due to a leaky o-ring? I was told that the leak is likely at the condenser assembly itself instead of the o-ring.
The AC shop cannot 100% tell whether the O-ring or condenser is bad, and knows that if they replace the condenser and the O-ring that you/customer will have cold air.

The shop doesn't want to gamble with YOUR money that only the O-ring needs to be replaced.

I will say - since I do have my own equipment and do my own labor - that if this was my personal vehicle I would try the replacement O-ring first.
Thank you. I can not do this myself. So, I was wondering how likely the leak is at the condenser assembly itself and whether I should ask them to replace O-ring first.
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The shop has the equipment. I'd ask for a quote to replace the O-ring and replace refrigerant separately, and one if the condenser/drier needs to be replaced. Access to the fitting/O-ring looks straightforward from your photo.

If it really is the condenser leaking, then you'd pay the TOTAL of the two quotes as the refrigerant would need to be removed and replaced a second time. Note that refrigerant removal, evacuation, and replacement is all automated with a special/expensive machine but still would need to be done a second time if the condenser is bad.
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Cusser wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:29 am The shop has the equipment. I'd ask for a quote to replace the O-ring and replace refrigerant separately, and one if the condenser/drier needs to be replaced. Access to the fitting/O-ring looks straightforward from your photo.

If it really is the condenser leaking, then you'd pay the TOTAL of the two quotes as the refrigerant would need to be removed and replaced a second time. Note that refrigerant removal, evacuation, and replacement is all automated with a special/expensive machine but still would need to be done a second time if the condenser is bad.
I got both quotes, the price difference is quite large ($240 vs $640). I am wondering how likely the leak is at the condenser assembly itself. The spot shown in the photo is the only place where leak (dye) was found.
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Re: Honda Accord AC leak

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Yes, it could definitely be a leaky O-ring. O-rings can dry out, crack, or lose their seal over time, especially on older cars like a 2011. That spot where the high-side line meets the condenser is a pretty common place for O-ring failures.

That said, your mechanic might suspect the condenser itself because sometimes the metal around the fitting can develop small cracks or corrosion, which also causes leaks. If the dye is showing up around the fitting but not exactly from the joint, they may think it's coming from the aluminum part of the condenser instead of the O-ring.

Honestly, I’d try replacing the O-ring first — it’s a cheap and easy fix compared to replacing the whole condenser. If that doesn’t solve it, then yeah, unfortunately, you may be looking at replacing the condenser.

Hope that helps! Let us know what you end up doing and if it works out.
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Thank you, this helps. Based on the photo, the dye appears to be more concentrated along the seam where the "peanut" connector mates with the condenser, so I suspected the O-ring could be the culprit. If the leak is due to corrosion, the corrosion should be on the "inner" surface that is not exposed to weather, it seems unlikely although possible. I could not see any cracks in the area with dye, but I could miss the small ones I guess.
johnarden wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:12 am Yes, it could definitely be a leaky O-ring. O-rings can dry out, crack, or lose their seal over time, especially on older cars like a 2011. That spot where the high-side line meets the condenser is a pretty common place for O-ring failures.

That said, your mechanic might suspect the condenser itself because sometimes the metal around the fitting can develop small cracks or corrosion, which also causes leaks. If the dye is showing up around the fitting but not exactly from the joint, they may think it's coming from the aluminum part of the condenser instead of the O-ring.

Honestly, I’d try replacing the O-ring first — it’s a cheap and easy fix compared to replacing the whole condenser. If that doesn’t solve it, then yeah, unfortunately, you may be looking at replacing the condenser.

Hope that helps! Let us know what you end up doing and if it works out.
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Is this a high mileage car? If you are over 100K, then I would have them change out both the condenser and the O-ring.
The system needs to be empty in order for them to change out either one.
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