Look at what we have to choose from- pandering politicians, flip-floppers, ones that contradict themselves, etc. Do you have a favorite and why?
I will start: so far, yes, no ones ever perfect, but Paul seems to tell it like it is- even if you dont like to hear how bitter the medicine may be to "heal".
Will I have to vote for Obama given the choice of Repubs? Geez.
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beware of the arrival
Edited: Fri November 25, 2011 at 1:04 PM by pippo
We could send you Tony Blair if you like...... You guys have to pay the freight charges though...
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
No thanks Karl. We already have a fool that wants to run things like the UK playing Mr. President.
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Hey! He was Mr Bush's bestest buddy so he should know how to really drop you in the manure and sell it to the public as gold...
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
All Blair does is focus on religion. Got to have an alternative to that.
Now, whos for bringing back the man with the iron fist- Elliot Spitzer?? I do not know of a more effective person who was NOT afraid to confront the pirates on Wall St......period.
So what did they do? They railroaded him with the sleeze factor, which the media knew the public at large would savor, since the alternative to ignore it would mean them being relegated to return to their pathetically mundane daily lives......
Elliot for President! (got any better ideas?)
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beware of the arrival
Edited: Sat November 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM by pippo
I have no issue with a person of faith. Labeling someone out for that simple factor is as bad as labeling someone for their race or genetic makeup.
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Ha ha ha.... Berlusconi and Blair both should have been found dangling from a street corner lamp post for what they did to their countries... Blair spends little time here anymore as he's not exactly popular. He's far to busy taking big fat cheques from his Middle Eastern buddies to worry about the economy that he decimated..
Religion and Politics should never be allowed to mix. No good has ever come of it.
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
All I know or care to mention, we have to pay a lot of taxes for services never received. And the consequences are great if you refuse or can't afford to pay. Will kick you out of your home unto the street or slap in in prison with the IRS.
If the course of action improved our country. I couldn't careless! Your response validated what I'm saying. You simply reject someone for their faith., You claim to not want it shoved in your face! Yet you're doing it in your response. As Mr Bill stated. Your belief is not to have a belief. So you're wanting everyone to conform to it. If I had made a comment that voting for a black man was wrong simply because he was black. You would be calling me a racist and so on. Judging someone because they have a belief different from yours is just as bad as singling them out because of their race.
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But if the situation in the US worsened, then would you believe?
I object to being told to believe in an entity for which there is no proof of it's existence
I invite anyone to give me one example of religion being good and useful
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
The reason why I stood up for the Muslims is because the guys on this site who were all batting for the Christians and the Muslims had no one to defend them against the venom that the righteous, tolerant Christians were spouting.... Personally I find the Muslims as irritating as the Jews.... Neither could lie straight in bed. Both of which believe that their own god is the true god as do the Christians and every other religion in the world...... The one and only purpose of a religion is to have power over those who need to believe in something. I believe in myself and what I know to be true by evidence.....
You need to study the candidates, their record of getting the job done, straight talking etc and go for the least bad option. Also you have to bear in mind that what you want them to do isn't always feasible
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
Edited: Sun November 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM by Karl Hofmann
When you go to church and told if you don't vote for this guy that claims he is against abortion, you will be condemning yourself to an eternal hell, even though this guy hasn't done a damn thing in the last 40 years to make abortions illegal. In events like this, religion does play a very important role on who is elected, and certain political parties really take advantage of this fact.
I've never been told to vote for a candidate in Church!!! You see more people pushing a agenda on the nightly news then you would ever in a Church. People like to pick these little themes that are pushed by others and run with them. It's a good sound bite but is it true.
Nick, so you condone abortion of a human? That's something I struggle with as I do believe life begins at conception. Only in rare cases do I believe another life should be taken by the hands of man.
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I am undecided at this time, but put me down for one vote against the Pagan Socialists.
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Tim , I think that it states somewhere in your bible that you must not kill.... It is a commandment, so how can there be any circumstances where killing is acceptable?
Not going to get into the abortion row but all of my friends and family know that if something should happen that would cause me to be in a vegetative state then I should be allowed or promoted to die.... Any useful parts should be used to help others.... You may think that it is a sin but I see it as practical and useful, I would not be a drain on the NHS and my spare parts will help others .
Richard Dawkins
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Never knock on deaths door... Ring the doorbell and run away, death really hates that!
Edited: Mon November 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM by Karl Hofmann
Karl, I'm sure you can find a passage to fit any thought you might have. Bible also states one is allowed to defend them self for their enemies. I have no issue with organ donation. Matter of fact I most likely will need a kidney in the next few years. I hope one is available for me when the time comes.
Hey buddy I know you like to bring up that Christians have killed others for their religion. Here is an interesting link for you.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atrocities.html
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Whether I believe in abortion or not is not the issue, my major point is the hypocrisy of politicians that claim to be against abortion but don't do a damn thing about it while in office.
On a personal note, I do not believe in abortions and neither do my eight kids with a dozen grandkids. And unlike some of my service buddies, know exactly where my kids are at, raised them and got most of them through college. Last one should graduate next May. This last one is a bank buster, with all those tax dollars going to this worthless middle east adventure not even declared by congress that is according to our constitution by the way. No more student grants, hell most of my kids paid all that back in the first year with state and federal income taxes and the rest of those years have been pure gravy for the government.
This last one is costing us $12,000.00 per year and we can only deduct $4,000.00 of that from these crooked basterds we have now running this country, screwing us royally. And these same basterds determine which countries we can or cannot do business with, exporting all of our jobs. These are the true traitors to MY country, fuck these dirty rotten crooked basterds.
Because I came from a dirt poor family was giving a choice, to either say an oath to die for my country or go to jail. Unlike the last three presidents that came from wealth and were learning how to effectively lie and cheat at Harvard. Calling the house of representatives is a bad joke when every party member votes how their party tells them to vote. Am neither a democrat nor a republican, both are liars and most are sex perverts.
In science, can't help believe their is a creator, and that is the person I love to talk to, the rest is all man made as far as I am concerned and equally corrupt. Question why the majority of Americans let this happen to OUR country. Least back then we did have an opportunity, with 1,525 newly created governmental agencies, can't even start a business anymore, and goodbye to anti-trust laws. Medical preconditions darn near bankrupted me, but somehow recovered from that, but sure don't have any retirement, so still have to work to mainly pay my property taxes for services I sure in the hell am not receiving.
And screw you basterds, that FICA tax I have been paying and still paying for 56 years that I also had to pay income tax on those FICA taxes, and pay income taxes on my miserable low SS check is MY money, and its not yours. Just give me 1.6 million dollars which what I would have if in an IRA, and we will call it even.
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