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1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer

aatcman on Sat July 10, 2010 1:50 PM User is offline

Year: 1986
Make: Jeep
Model: Grand Wagoneer
Engine Size: 5.9
Country of Origin: United States


just looking for some advice. I need to replace my condenser -- hit a deer, it's kind of broken and no longer the correct shape

Your website lists universal parallel flow ones and also has one specifically listed for this vehicle -- but has absolutely no description whatsoever and is more expensive.

My question is, what is the difference between the more expensive one listed specifically for my vehicle (is it also a crossflow? Is it stock type? why does it cost more?) and the universal parallel flow ones?


TRB on Sat July 10, 2010 2:24 PM User is offlineView users profile

The one listed for your vehicle is a drop in replacement I.E. OEM replacement. The universal is just that, a universal condenser with # 8 & 6 fitting connections. The replacement is a T & F design and the universal is a MPPF condenser.




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aatcman on Sat July 10, 2010 9:31 PM User is offline


OK, the connections are not an issue for me. I have a source for custom a/c hoses.

Which condenser is going to provide better cooling efficiency?

Your universal ones look like they have brackets on the sides -- my thought was to attach a universal one to the brackets from my old one what do you think?


TRB on Sat July 10, 2010 9:38 PM User is offlineView users profile

MPPF (universal) will provide more cooling size to size. Custom brackets or the ones you have will work.


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aatcman on Sat July 10, 2010 11:52 PM User is offline


aatcman on Sat July 17, 2010 2:30 PM User is offline

I am looking at the 14x24 mppf unit to do this.

Any chance you have one of those with the brackets on the sides instead of the top and bottom?


aatcman on Tue July 20, 2010 8:25 PM User is offline


aatcman on Thu July 22, 2010 2:26 PM User is offline

?? Hello, are you guys still there?

aatcman on Sat July 24, 2010 1:19 PM User is offline

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Sure disappeared quick. What happened to 24 forum and responsive customer support?

fonebone on Sun July 25, 2010 1:01 AM User is offline

Hi aatcman-All you have to do is mount the new condenser as close to the radiator( to take max advantage of cooling fan drawing air past it) as possible. I like using pipe hanger strap from the hardware store-has lots of holes, is bendable, and rigid enough to hold. Remember that this does not have to look pretty, just has to hang it. Get up in place using wire or anything. Once positioned, each strap you hang will start adding rigidity, and it's amazing how fast it gets rigid. A slight flexibility is fine. You have 90 percent of the problem solved by having a local tube-hose maker close by. The difference in cooling with a parallel flow over the stock is quite noticeable. Remember that you will have a slight difference in system capacity over stock. You can always add an electric pusher cooling fan( a good sized one) with "through straps" to hold it on the condenser, driver controlled with a switch, for better performance at slow speed, heavy traffic,etc. As an aside, remember that we are all volunteers here trying to help, it is Saturday , many have another life! Take care--

Edited: Sun July 25, 2010 at 1:07 AM by fonebone

aatcman on Sun July 25, 2010 8:38 AM User is offline

Thanks for the reply -- but the question was directed to the ac kits dot com guy above as to weather or not they could sell me a 14 x 24 with side brackets. The unit they show only has top & bottom brackets -- which won't work with my existing brackets.

Also, not to be rude, but I DON'T CARE that its SATURDAY. I POSTED MY QUESTION 8 DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll notice the ?'s every other day or so.


aatcman on Mon July 26, 2010 8:20 AM User is offline

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Still no answer. 9 days now......................

jglanham on Mon July 26, 2010 1:28 PM User is offline


You have to realize that the folks at ACKITS are running an automotive A/C parts & repair business. They don't always have the time to read and respond to everyone's questions on this forum. This forum is provided and paid for, through the generosity of the owner of AMA. It's purpose is to allow an exchange of information among its users, not as a means of specifically communicating with AMA or ACKITS. Sorry to be sarcastic, but if you are looking for a specific answer from AMA or ACKITS, why don't you e-mail them or call them on the telephone?

The following is excerpted from their home page:

If you ever have trouble working our site or just want our help. Feel free to email or contact us by phone.


Edited: Mon July 26, 2010 at 1:30 PM by jglanham

aatcman on Mon July 26, 2010 2:02 PM User is offline

Couldn't find an e-mail address and their site says "24x7 customer support forum, click here".
I understand that they can't respond right away -- thats fine -- but 9 DAYS? and still no response?

jglanham on Mon July 26, 2010 2:48 PM User is offline

For the e-mail adresses, see the last line of TRB's posts. Their phone number is listed on their home page- upper right corner.


Edited: Mon July 26, 2010 at 2:52 PM by jglanham

aatcman on Mon July 26, 2010 8:47 PM User is offline


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