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MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 1:33 PM User is offlineView users profile

How Militec A/C works

Militec A/C is a patented metal conditioner which chemically bonds to the metal surfaces of your vehicles A/C compressor. It is not a refrigerant oil which sometimes leaks from the systems.

Militec A/C treats metal surface allowing for greater lubrication.
One application of Militec last for 15,000 miles and contains no harmful chemicals such as PTFE, chlorinated paraffin's, graphite or fluorine.

The average cost of an A/C compressor breakdown can be as high as $2,500.00. One yearly application of Militec A/C can substantially reduce that financial risk.

We have seen results from any were from 10 to 20 degree temp drops on the compressor it self, with the compressor working more efficiently the air also gets colder quicker.

Please check us out at www.militec-ac.com or you can call me directly at 623-434-2622

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TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 3:47 PM User is offlineView users profile

What makes your product any better than ICE32, TR2000, and all the other oil additives on the market?

Compressor fail do to lack of lubrication, not a break down of oil. So if Militec is added to a system. Lubricate is lost do to leaks. What benefit is the extra $100.00 product going to provide?

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MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 5:20 PM User is offlineView users profile

Hello great question Militec is not a film over the metal Militec actually Penetrates into the pours of the metal, a coating over the metal can wear unevenly and can actually attract unwanted buildup. Our Kit to treat one vehicle is 49.95 with free shipping anywhere in the US . As for the tr2000 i am not familiar with that product, You are right on the fact of compressors fail due to lack of lubrication With Militec lubrication is always there because it penetrates all the metal in the compressor.

MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 5:35 PM User is offlineView users profile

Militec is also certified for use within the Military we have are nsn number, Militec works great in the ac system as well as any other locations that has metal on metal contact with friction Militec protects motors and bearings and so much more.

TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 5:39 PM User is offlineView users profile

So are you saying when using Militec, one does not need to worry about oil lubrication? If a compressor fails will Militec offer a warranty for the compressor?

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MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 5:50 PM User is offlineView users profile

Militec Provides a better lubrication then the standard oil in Freon and any oil that is circulating through the system , Militec does no circulate through the system like i said it penetrates into the pours of the metal , if a product has been used on the system in the past that puts a coating over the metal Militec will no work as it has no cleaning agent in it to get to the metal. As far as the warranty goes we cannot cover the cost of a compressor we have never had a compressor fail due to adding Militec to the system.

iceman2555 on Tue June 18, 2013 5:59 PM User is offlineView users profile

Gotta go find my snake boots....another miracle cure for all my AC questions. Heck, gonna be of out a job very soon.


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MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 6:15 PM User is offlineView users profile

Iceman we get that allot in fact im surprised you were the first person to mention it , it is a big hump for us to get over but we are the only company i know of that has a nsn number and is certified for use within the military i dont beleive the other ac lubricants can state that. Militec is not a new product it has been around for over 25 years and there is many testimonials out there that back the information up.

TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 6:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

But it will still not save a compressor from lack of lubrication! Since auto a/c systems fail mostly from lack of lubrication, what is the benefit?

These products are just hard sells for me. That is unless I am simply out to milk the public of some cash.

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MilitecUSA on Tue June 18, 2013 6:31 PM User is offlineView users profile

Militec provides a better lubrication then Freon and oil can ever provide. The benifit of using militec is the additional lubrication it provides to your system, the article below they did testing and actually drain the system and it on had militec conditioned into the metal and it ran for a amazing long time.

AMERICAN AIR COMPANY, INC.
Box 19646, Charlotte, North Carolina 28219

Dr. Alan D. Roth
Advanced Product Distributors, Inc.
10849 Bucknell Drive
Wheaton, Maryland 20902
Dear Dr. Roth:
We are a custom air conditioner manufacturing facility that specializes in transport systems. Our
day-to-day business involves fan motors, motor compressors, engines, and motor generators. We
also manufacture a complete line of marine air conditioning systems.
In a boat, the more compact you make the system, the easier it is to sell. For this reason we use
rotary compressors. In our field, a number of major manufacturers have produced systems with
rotary compressors but many of these companies have had major problems over the years with
motor burnout and have since dropped the rotary format. We, on the other hand, have continued to
use it. Coupled with quality design and the best compressors on the market, we have had good
success. However, we remain sensitive to the need for protection against motor burnout if there is a
loss of refrigerant or voltage.
After seeing your demonstration and reading the documentation on Militec-1, we saw a potential for
added protection for the rotary compressor. We decided to try it out and the following is how we
tested it and what we found:
We first established a baseline for the subject compressor, a 13,500 Btu/hr Matsushita rotary that
was drawing 11.2 amps and operated at about 230o
F with a 73o
F ambient temperature. Through an
oil pump hooked into the suction line, we added 1/4 ounce of Militec-1 to the 9.8 ounces of
compressor oil already in the compressor (which held 31.8 ounces of R-22 refrigerant). We then
allowed the compressor to operate for about an hour, giving the Militec-1 time to bond with the
metal. At the end of the hour, the compressor body was 194o
F, a drop of 36o
F. We also noted the
amp draw was down to 9.4, a drop of 1.8 amps.
To further test Militec-1, we recovered the refrigerant from the system and ran the unit dry. This
was a very risky test as the refrigerant is needed to cool the system and without it the compressor
would normally overheat and lock up within a few minutes. Instead, we watched the system operate
for two hours, at the end of which it had only heated up to 249o
F. It is rated to handle 266o
F, but we
then reset the overload to 249o
F to shut the system down. We let the system cool for two hours,
reintroduced the refrigerant and restarted it. It ran as it had before we recovered the refrigerant. The
two hours of operation without refrigerant had no adverse effect.
Without any changes, this system is operating today as our display model. It just ran 10 hours a day
for 10 days inside our show area at the New York National Boat Show. Prospective customers were
impressed as it was producing a 20o
F differential in temperature while 16-18o
F is the norm. We are
now using Militec-1 in all our systems with good results.
Sincerely,
Dan Kovach
Sales Engineer

TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 6:49 PM User is offlineView users profile

That a sealed compressor if I am not mistaken. Oil was not removed from compressor just refrigerant. Can you have them retest without oil as one would see in a automotive application?

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Dougflas on Tue June 18, 2013 8:08 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: TRB
That a sealed compressor if I am not mistaken. Oil was not removed from compressor just refrigerant. Can you have them retest without oil as one would see in a automotive application?

That were my thoughts as I was reading the testimonial. Let's try that on a R4 compressor.

TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 9:01 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: Dougflas
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Originally posted by: TRB
That a sealed compressor if I am not mistaken. Oil was not removed from compressor just refrigerant. Can you have them retest without oil as one would see in a automotive application?



That were my thoughts as I was reading the testimonial. Let's try that on a R4 compressor.

or a FX15!



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iceman2555 on Tue June 18, 2013 9:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

Is this a lubricant to actually replace the typical lubricant charge associated with a compressor installation or a additive to enhance the OE type lubricant?
If this is a true replacement, show the test data for a unit operated for the 500/300 hr durability testing associated with new compressor manufacturing. We have all seen these miracle products come and go and yet the market never seems to accept them. Heck, I am not even a proponent of ICE32 and the cost factor is much lower.
Want to prove a point, send me a sample and I shall run it on a vehicle...not on the test stand....cost too much to clean these darn things when parts explode. Contact site sponsor and he can supply contact info.
The majority of compressor fail due to lack of lubricant migration within the system, is this product going to protect my compressor when the system is undercharged or is not charged properly. If not, then what is the benefit. A bit more cooling....ICE32 promised this and have yet to see a major reduction of temps.
We manufacture compressors for the military and have not been exposed to your product in our facility. Just an observation.
Is there a bit of skepticism...for sure....can my mind be changed....possibility....just got to prove your statements. This appears to be similar to the products of a time ago.....add this product to the crankcase of a Viper V10...operate for a short period of time....drain the oil and voila.....the engine keeps on running.........true magic in a can.

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TRB on Tue June 18, 2013 10:04 PM User is offlineView users profile

Quote
Originally posted by: iceman2555
Is this a lubricant to actually replace the typical lubricant charge associated with a compressor installation or a additive to enhance the OE type lubricant?

If this is a true replacement, show the test data for a unit operated for the 500/300 hr durability testing associated with new compressor manufacturing. We have all seen these miracle products come and go and yet the market never seems to accept them. Heck, I am not even a proponent of ICE32 and the cost factor is much lower.

Want to prove a point, send me a sample and I shall run it on a vehicle...not on the test stand....cost too much to clean these darn things when parts explode. Contact site sponsor and he can supply contact info.

The majority of compressor fail due to lack of lubricant migration within the system, is this product going to protect my compressor when the system is undercharged or is not charged properly. If not, then what is the benefit. A bit more cooling....ICE32 promised this and have yet to see a major reduction of temps.

We manufacture compressors for the military and have not been exposed to your product in our facility. Just an observation.

Is there a bit of skepticism...for sure....can my mind be changed....possibility....just got to prove your statements. This appears to be similar to the products of a time ago.....add this product to the crankcase of a Viper V10...operate for a short period of time....drain the oil and voila.....the engine keeps on running.........true magic in a can.

I agree, true testing will verify if the product is worth the claims.

If Militec wants to provide a sample. I will be sure to get it to Mr. Ice.

Send Product to:

Attn: Tim

Arizona Mobile Air Inc.
3601 W. Clarendon Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85019


Note: Mr. Ice is a product specialist for a leading auto a/c compressor company.

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iceman2555 on Wed June 19, 2013 8:44 AM User is offlineView users profile

Why does the chemical need to be replaced annually? Most additives in the market today do not require an annual service. Heck, most customers will not service their AC on an annual basis. AC is one of those neglected accessories that do not generate attention until.....it's not as cold as it once was....oh well....it must the excessive heat......what in the heck is that noise......sounds like the AC.....have to have someone check that......Mildred...what is that screeching noise from under the hood.....Never knew it cost this much to fix a simple AC compressor.


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HECAT on Wed June 19, 2013 11:34 AM User is offline

What is the chemical composition of this magic miracle lubricant? Why do the OEM's not use this stuff if it is that good? Obtaining a military part number means nothing more that successful marketing; what is the MIL Spec number? Sorry, but it just smells like I stepped in something.

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MilitecUSA on Wed June 19, 2013 12:01 PM User is offlineView users profile

TRB and Iceman this is not a replacement of the oil nor is it a addative to the oil it does not change the viscosity of the oil in any way it strictly is a metal conditioner and like i said before does not stay circulating through the system, Militec is strictly a metal conditioner it permeates into the pours of the metal and actually stiffens then metal. We could go on and on about this and like everyone always says its the next miracle product well its actually been around for over 25 years u can read the story of out founder here http://militecusa.com/militecstory.html .

Iceman u are definitely right on the point that most people do not give there ac systems enough attention, do u have contact information were i could send a sample to the site master ?

TRB on Wed June 19, 2013 12:05 PM User is offlineView users profile

As stated,

Send Product to:

Attn: Tim

Arizona Mobile Air Inc.
3601 W. Clarendon Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85019

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MilitecUSA on Thu June 20, 2013 2:42 PM User is offlineView users profile

Hey sorry about that i sent out the product today you should receive it tomorrow

Thanks

TRB on Fri June 28, 2013 2:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

Product received and has been shipped to Mr. Ice.

I wait in anticipation for the report.

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MilitecUSA on Mon July 08, 2013 2:47 PM User is offlineView users profile

Great !

MilitecUSA on Thu August 08, 2013 6:15 PM User is offlineView users profile

TRB Has Mr. Ice gotten any feedback to you yet?

TRB on Thu August 08, 2013 6:39 PM User is offlineView users profile

Not at this time. He should see this thread and will chime in.

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