The only thing this thing was good at sealing was my orifice tube.
Edited: Tue September 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM by Automotive Air Conditioning Information Moderator
update: decided to flush the system. look at what I found in my evaporator
Looks like I'm going to need a new condenser as well.
Edited: Tue September 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM by Automotive Air Conditioning Information Moderator
You're looking at total system replacement. Everything that touches refrigerant including the lines.
Interdynamics's has been getting away with murder for years, surprised there hasn't been any lawsuits, least not aware of any. Nothing left of the FTC, have to hire an attorney to file a claim, for individuals, not worth it. Interdynamics's knows that.
Besides cans of DuPont pure R-134a on the shelves recently in Wisconsin, seeing loads of Interdynamics's crap with their inaccurate cheap plastic gauges and extremely poor instructions. But they claim, anyone can repair their own AC system.
Not posting anything new.
When Im at the store and see someone about to check out with Super Sealer AC fix in a can, I feel I should really talk to them, but doubt that they would listen. Id say in 98% of the cases, when the refrigerant is low, that it didn't slowly seep out the lubricating compressor seal over 15 years - that theres a REAL leak that needs to be attended to.
I "love" the CraigsList ads that state "just needs a re-charge"; I feel in most cases the seller knows damn well what is wrong, got a $1200 repair estimate, and says that it's time to sell. To me that's run - don't walk - away as fast as possible, unless you know what you're getting into.
I have bought my own '88 Mazda truck and a 1994 Suburban with faulty compressors still delivering cold, but I was fully aware of the situation in both cases and quickly repaired those.
Wonder if anyone has every tried to file a claim against the sealer manufactures. I am sure they are covered but would be interesting to know what their response is to these type of issues.
"Your results may vary. Our liability is limited to replacement of defective product." Incidental or consequential damages are never covered, though this stuff could be considered grossly negligent. No lawyers will take it though because there isn't any personal injury which is where the big money is.
First step is to contact the company whose product caused you grief. If that doesn't work, just mention small claims court, usually does, if not file a claim. Around here cost a hundred bucks, but will get that back if you win your case.
Not keeping up with all the law changes in my state, but think I heard Walker say the business that sold that piece of crap is no longer liable, have to go directly to the manufacturer. Have to keep receipts, records, and documentation.
When my kid was having problems when his HVAC dealer who put in sealer, instructed him to contact the owner. Owner claimed a fired employee did that and wasn't his fault. Told my kid just to mention small claims court, his dealer the owner came out and replaced his system. Not good for a business's reputation to be taken to small claims court and losing due to faulty repairs.
Told my son would be happy to be a witness.
Interdynamics' slogan should be "we sell you crap to screw up your AC and then sell you stuff to fix it the right way!"
Anyways, the original plan was just to replace the leaky/vital components with various Harbor Freight Tools ($40), Robinair Vacuum Pump ($100), GM O ring kit ($30), compressor (ACDelco refurbished $230), liquid line $80, PAG 150 $20 and drier $33. Upon discovering the FUBAR state of the lines I decided to redo the whole system the right way (orifice tube $4 at OReilly). I decided to keep the condenser after flushing it. There wasn't much in there as the evap because the evap is located immediate downstream of the low side port and where the Super Seal was introduced. Moreover, the AC was actually still operating in this sad state and pushed most of the particulates into the orifice tube that is downstream of the condenser.
I used a flush gun kit (Interdynamics FK-1, $55 at O'Reilly) and a newly purchased used Rol Air compressor ($130 on craigslist + $40 for hoses) to flush everything. After discovering just how expensive solvent is ($20 a qt at NAPA) I opted to use isopropyl alcohol (8 qts at 2 bucks a qt at WalMart) but was unsatisfied with its cleansing action. I then bought some lacquer thinner ($20 a gallon at Home Depot, 2 gallons, and finished flushing). After using the lacquer thinner my air blow gun attached to the flush kit was melted shut. I went hardcore and used the rubber nozzle and compression fittings from the air blow gun along with a compressed air ball valve (Home Depot Husky 1/4 air ball valve, Watts 1/4'' female brass pipe to 1/8'' female brass pipe, $11) to make a new blow gun. It ended up being easier to use because the valve could be kept open and be used to air out the components for 30 minutes as required post flushing. Pulsed with 100psi air, switched back and forth between holes until no specs of Super Seal dust came out.
Put it back together tonight, recharged to spec with a 30lb tank of R134 from ruralking.com $140, and a $60 set of brass mountain gauges.
Vent Temp: 42 degrees on a 74 degree night.
Total cost: ~$1000 bucks to do it right plus I get to keep the tools
Thanks to all the frequent posters on the board and all the archived information I now have AC just in time for FALL! Also, this video was helpful:
Edited: Thu September 27, 2012 at 4:01 AM by doctorbee
How could you recharge to spec without a scale to weigh how much refrigerant you put in? I didn't see one mentioned in the text, or in the picture.
Edited: Thu September 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM by johnbkobb
I already had a digital scale
Used an Ohaus SD75 accurate to the oz.
Edited: Thu September 27, 2012 at 3:51 PM by doctorbee
Lol check out this bold proclamation that super seal won't clog my AC
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