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Auto AC repair shop around RI or MA

echaocn on Wed June 23, 2010 9:36 PM User is offlineView users profile

Year: 1999
Make: Mercedes Benz
Model: E430
Engine Size: 4.3
Refrigerant Type: 134a
Country of Origin: United States

I am looking for information about Auto AC repair shop around RI or MA area.

My mercedes mechanic had worked on my car's AC system and had diagnoized as a leaking evaporator. Since replacing the evaporator is an labor intensive work (cost a lot on labor), it's not worthy to do the evaporator replacement considering the car's year and current value. I heard some good stories about people using sealants such as Cliplight super seal (from cliplight) or Cryo seal (from Cryochem) to fix AC leaks.

I was wondering if any of you could recommend some AC shop around rhode island area that had experience using these sealants for Auto AC repair.

Thank for your reading.

HECAT on Wed June 23, 2010 9:51 PM User is offline

I hope you are joking. The good stories are marketing hot air, do some research... Or maybe it is a real POS MB worth less than a six-pack of beer. Death kits come with simple point and shoot instructions; you can shoot that system killing crap in yourself. Why ask someone else to kill it, why pay someone else to kill it; just do it yourself. Sorry for the sarcasm.

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echaocn on Wed June 23, 2010 10:21 PM User is offlineView users profile

I am not joking and I already did a lot of research. The reason is that the current value of my car is about $7000 and replacing the evaporator would cost around $3000 (mainly due to labor). Since I am going to change my car in in a year or two, it does not justify for such a huge repair.

CCWKen on Wed June 23, 2010 11:59 PM User is offlineView users profile

Actually, the ACV of your car is about $4500. Even less with an inoperable A/C. I would find a new mechanic. $600 per hour labor seems a bit steep, even for an MB. Sounds like the estimate was to help you move to a new car sooner.

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TRB on Thu June 24, 2010 12:51 AM User is offlineView users profile

What's the cost for a total component replacement after that sealer hardens and destroys all the a/c components. I've seen it on more than one occasion. I'm sure the future buyer would appreciate knowing a sealer was installed. That will kill your resale value if you are honest with the buyer.

As stated look for a different shop willing to do the repair correctly at a fair price.

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echaocn on Thu June 24, 2010 1:08 AM User is offlineView users profile

Replacing the evaporator in a Mercedes involve removing all front dash of the car, that's why it's charged for at least 15 hours labor at a rate of $130/hr.
About the value of the car, $7k or $4.5k does not make any difference. Some is selling for close to $10k, some is selling for $5k, all depends on the seller's mind and the car's condition.
Yeah, I guess I might just have to roll down the windows and start looking for a newer MB. I really like the newer CLS class and S class, but right now they are all above $35k for 4 years old ones.
I might have to let them depreciate a little more so I feel confortable buying them (At that time, I should have ended my student career, lol)

Edited: Thu June 24, 2010 at 1:29 AM by echaocn

echaocn on Thu June 24, 2010 1:18 AM User is offlineView users profile

All the mechanical part is still pretty good and you get 275hp with 6.1s 0-60 mph with the sport package, so I guess even without AC this car should easily go above $4k. Anyway, I will keep the car for one year or two even without AC, real hot summer is just 2 to 3 weeks in my area and I only drive the car during weekends ( I walk to school during weekdays).

TRB on Thu June 24, 2010 2:23 PM User is offlineView users profile

We all like to hear about an easy fix. The proponents of sealers will use the cost versa sealer repair. They never have addressed what happens when the sealer plugs the entire system. It happens I've seen it as stated before. The Internet is a great source for propaganda. I'm sure the manufactures of sealers will debate the issue all day long to support their products. But lets address the issue at hand. Sealers that have a hardening material in them activate by air and moisture. So let's assume you install it in your MB and it plugs the evap leak. Yet in 4 months a hose needs replaced. You open the system and all the sealer in the system reacts as it is supposed to and hardens. Now you have a huge mess and big expense!

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Peter_Coll on Thu June 24, 2010 2:28 PM User is offlineView users profile

I'll second TRB's comments.

Your best bet is the Automotive Fluids aisle at Walmart. You can do just as well putting it in as they can. The net result wil be the same and you'll save alot of money.

Edited: Thu June 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM by Peter_Coll

CCWKen on Thu June 24, 2010 5:42 PM User is offlineView users profile

15 hours? I thought; That's gotta include nap time! Well, I was curious so I looked up the flat rate in a crash book.
R&I for the evaporator assembly is 12.5 hrs.
R&R for the evaporator core is 1.9hrs. (After the assembly is on the bench)
Total - 14.4
Add to that the A/C service of 1.4 hrs and the grand total is 15.8 hours!

I couldn't believe it!

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echaocn on Thu June 24, 2010 5:56 PM User is offlineView users profile

Procedure link is here, http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W210Evaporator
Looks like a nightmare.
So I guess 15 hours is reasonable estimate.

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