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robs on Tue May 18, 2010 11:37 AM User is offlineView users profile

Year: 53
Make: BUICK
Model: EIGHT
Engine Size: 350
Refrigerant Type: 134a

















Edited: Tue May 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM by robs

steve325is on Tue May 18, 2010 11:59 AM User is offline

Looks sweet! That SBC looks lost in there compared to the original powerplant.

-- Steve

NickD on Tue May 18, 2010 1:53 PM User is offline

In 53, only the Special had the straight 8, Super and Roadmaster came with a V-8, but that engine looks more like a Chevy, Buick always had vertical valve covers that were nice and oil wouldn't leak down the side of the engine.

I did own a 52 with the straight eight, thanks for posting these photos, I had forgotten the huge amount of chrome on the IP, also a very nice installation job. Also forgotten about those huge diameter steering wheels. LOL, where is the suicide knob.

steve325is on Tue May 18, 2010 2:16 PM User is offline

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In 53, only the Special had the straight 8, Super and Roadmaster came with a V-8, but that engine looks more like a Chevy, Buick always had vertical valve covers that were nice and oil wouldn't leak down the side of the engine.



I did own a 52 with the straight eight, thanks for posting these photos, I had forgotten the huge amount of chrome on the IP, also a very nice installation job. Also forgotten about those huge diameter steering wheels. LOL, where is the suicide knob.

Yes Nick, "SBC" means "Small Block Chevy". Rob says it is a 350 in the original post. I don't see a P/S pump on there, so a "necker's knob" would probably be handy.

-- Steve

TRB on Tue May 18, 2010 6:39 PM User is offlineView users profile

Should have painted the fan shroud! That would have made the engine bay pop! Jack and the rest of the staff did a nice job on this project.

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Edited: Tue May 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM by TRB

NickD on Tue May 18, 2010 6:48 PM User is offline

Since I own both a 305 and a 454 CID Chevrolet engine, then I must own both a SBC and a BBC? Bet Karl knows all about the BBC.

LOL, I hate abbreviations, even in my own line of work, when you use them for years, you forget what they stand for.

I suppose he could add a PS pump, but not sure where he would connect the hoses to, My most favorite Buick was a 1941 with Saginaw power steering, actually all ball bearings. Then I owned a 1937 Cadillac Limo for a short while with a V-16, recall that steering wheel had about 50 turns from stop to stop.

Did drive a 57 Chevy a couple, swore my arm were stretched out like I was hanging from a cross at opposite sides of that steering wheel. DMV still wants hand over hand steering, not easy to do when you only have to turn the wheel 30* to make a sharp turn. More like finger over finger. My first car with AC was a 1965 Buick Electra, that ruined me for life, now can't live without AC.

ice-n-tropics on Tue May 18, 2010 6:48 PM User is offline

Rob,
Thanks for your pictures.
Must be top priority in Phoenix for A/C but heater not required.
Battery must be in the trunk which helps with clean underhood.
Firewall bulkhead plate and bronze bezels show personalized attention.
Where are A/C controls? Did you shorten the glove box? How'bout that shifter?
Exhaust heat necessitates heat conduction through floorboard countermeasures.
Might need to add engine driven fan for long cruise in Scottsdale at 20 to 30 mph on 110 F day (with tail wind) for engine cooling.
A/C is easier than chopping the top.
Cordially,
hotrodac

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robs on Tue May 18, 2010 7:22 PM User is offlineView users profile

If you look closely at the interior shots, under the two center vents you'll see the black knob to turn on the ac. It has a preset thermostat, so one one switch was needed for blower speed/kick on. The glove box was not there so all Jack did was remove the cable that opened and closed the fresh air vent since it was getting in the way of concealing the evap box. Still left a lot of room for a glove box. Overall the customer was very happy with the end result and it blew ice cold when it was all said and done.

Edited: Tue May 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM by robs

Nick on Wed May 19, 2010 10:30 PM User is offline

Who's kidding who here, lets give credit where credit is due! Anybody that knows AMA knows Jack is the one who designed and built this system. Jack is a great fabricator and he demonstrates it time and time again!!! AMA is lucky to have him.

TRB on Wed May 19, 2010 11:41 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Who's kidding who here, lets give credit where credit is due! Anybody that knows AMA knows Jack is the one who designed and built this system. Jack is a great fabricator and he demonstrates it time and time again!!! AMA is lucky to have him.

Absolutely!



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JACK ADAMS on Thu May 20, 2010 12:30 PM User is offline

Thanks for the “Nice Job” but I am not the only one that had hands on this. Yes I did most of the fab work and installation but the rest of the staff has to be recognized for doing their part as well. With out the shop supplies or the help of others this would not have been possible. Thanks.

HECAT on Thu May 20, 2010 1:17 PM User is offline

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Who's kidding who here, lets give credit where credit is due! Anybody that knows AMA knows Jack is the one who designed and built this system. Jack is a great fabricator and he demonstrates it time and time again!!! AMA is lucky to have him.

How much did Jack pay you to say that!

All kidding aside, many successful businesses are so because of their key people. I have met most, if not all of the staff that makes up the team at AMA. My many years of doing business with these guys has also allowed me to develop some strong and valuable personal relationships. A+ people, make an A+ team, and that makes an A+ company; A real class act in my book.

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Nick on Thu May 20, 2010 2:21 PM User is offline

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Who's kidding who here, lets give credit where credit is due! Anybody that knows AMA knows Jack is the one who designed and built this system. Jack is a great fabricator and he demonstrates it time and time again!!! AMA is lucky to have him.


SO HECAT, HOW MUCH DID "TIMMY" PAY YOU TO SAY THIS!

The real class act is Jack who says he's supported by the team. Although I have recently been dealing with AMA the "go to guy" is Jack even when us vendors need something. I call it like I see it!




How much did Jack pay you to say that!







All kidding aside, many successful businesses are so because of their key people. I have met most, if not all of the staff that makes up the team at AMA. My many years of doing business with these guys has also allowed me to develop some strong and valuable personal relationships. A+ people, make an A+ team, and that makes an A+ company; A real class act in my book.

Nick on Thu May 20, 2010 2:24 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: JACK ADAMS
Thanks for the “Nice Job” but I am not the only one that had hands on this. Yes I did most of the fab work and installation but the rest of the staff has to be recognized for doing their part as well. With out the shop supplies or the help of others this would not have been possible. Thanks.

Ya Jack the hands that were on it, were the ones standing around leaning on the car watching you do the work! HAHA

TRB on Thu May 20, 2010 2:52 PM User is offlineView users profile

Yes Karl how much did I pay you to say that about our staff? Jack certainly deserves credit for all he does at AMA.

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Nick on Thu May 20, 2010 4:20 PM User is offline

I don't know who Karl is, but I agree! Nick

HECAT on Fri May 21, 2010 5:55 AM User is offline

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Yes Karl how much did I pay you to say that about our staff? Jack certainly deserves credit for all he does at AMA.

Call it like I see it. I'll let you know how much to send. VBG

Not taking anything away from Jack; this job and many others, are great examples of his skills and talent.



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TRB on Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 AM User is offlineView users profile

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Yes Karl how much did I pay you to say that about our staff? Jack certainly deserves credit for all he does at AMA.

Not taking anything away from Jack; this job and many others, are great examples of his skills and talent.

You are correct Karl. Jack did and does a very good job. But there are other employees that do fantastic work also. Rob has done a great job at designing a new company brochure. Adam & Rob have worked hard at keeping the website up to date. Eric has many talents also. I my self keep things in order with all the AR/AP issues. I'll trade messing with the tax collectors any day to go back out in the shop. Plus we still have Dad, the man that will fix any little item from a swinging door to a ball valve in the compressor for the shop air. So while Jack does a great job! No single person should be given the credit as the one and only that makes a company work.

With that said let's get back to enjoying the work on this 53 Buick. All this talk about who did what and so on is just childish drama.



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ice-n-tropics on Fri May 21, 2010 11:24 AM User is offline

My 2 cents if AMA wants to give objective A/C data for a few vital evaluations and document a check out sheet:
Before passing out accolades it would be productive to measure performance at severe Phoenix ambient range of operating conditions.
One-off A/C design and installation in Hot Rods can be evaluated with a thermometer in the center vent and a gage set duct taped to the windshield.
1) Speeds: idle with the front bumper close to a wall, and then 20, 40 and 60 mph at 5 to ten min. each after warm up. Determine if Pd cycles clutch on pressure overprotection switch due to inadequate condensing.
Buick may need engine driven fan /and maybe pusher fan, only worse case testing will determine. Present shallow fan shroud may not draw air from fill face area of radiator.
2) Check for radiator top tank temp. E. G., If it is 220 F on a 100 deg day, it will be 235 F on a 115 day. You could also record for check out sheet the radiator pressure cap setting. This determines the boiling temp. For example w/ 50% anti freeze with 16 psi cap, boil is above 260 F. Boiling temp is raised 3 deg F for every 1 psi increase.
3) Check for comp bkt. and hose vibration and noise.
4) Floorboard temp above exhaust.
5) Cabin air leaks. Possibly causing evap case sweating and louver discharge frost.
6) Thermometer reading for comp cycle off point. To insure against freeze up.
7) Evap drainage and is there excessive water drainage after conclusion of driving test. Drainage or spitting with Hot Rod setting on steep slope sideways and front/back. Is evap mounted so drain pan sloped toward drain.
8) Is there water spitting during cycling?
JMO,
hotrodac

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Nick on Fri May 21, 2010 12:38 PM User is offline

Tim: I thought we were talking about the fabrication on the Buick? Take a couple Midol and a few chocolates you'll feel better in a week! (Wa Wa)

TRB on Fri May 21, 2010 12:46 PM User is offlineView users profile

Grow up!

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TRB on Fri May 21, 2010 12:48 PM User is offlineView users profile

Ice, this system should cool very well in the Phx temps. This was a cool only setup and were not limited to the space many of the heat cool systems require.

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NickD on Fri May 21, 2010 3:20 PM User is offline

Poster Nick is not to be confused with poster, NickD.

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