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$99.00 A/C Compressor

HECAT on Wed September 03, 2008 4:32 PM User is offline

Just had a friend from a truck shop down the street, stop in with a story I just had to share.

Seems he is trying to fix the A/C on the boss's wife's Escalade. Purchased a $99 compressor from the local parts store and it failed. Went back for his second one and when it was put on the counter, he pulled a plug out and oil flowed out onto the counter full of metal shavings. The Counter Pro said "its OK, thats just break in material". LMAO.

Why did he come here to tell me? He understands the need to flush the system, but he wants to use a HECAT flusher to solvent flush this debris out of his new (reman-junk) compressor before he installs it! LMAO again.

After regaining my professional composure, I shared info related to the proper compressor OIL flush procedure although I do not think this is going to improve anything in his $99 compressor. I recommended a new compressor from ACkits.

Even if a NEW compressor costs 3 times as much, you are money ahead, than having to go thru this and do it again and again and again.



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Chick on Wed September 03, 2008 7:06 PM User is offlineView users profile

Sometimes you do get what you pay for.... But $99.00 is a little to much for a boat anchor, unless it's a big boat...

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HECAT on Wed September 03, 2008 8:05 PM User is offline

Funny how we both thought "boat anchor"; I held back from using it and you did.

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Chick on Wed September 03, 2008 8:09 PM User is offlineView users profile

I call it as I see it...

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HECAT on Wed September 03, 2008 8:15 PM User is offline

Yeah, I called it (reman-junk) instead.

I just had another good laugh (he he) about flushing out the "break in" debris.

I just don't understand why he would even have left the store with that one.

Just happy it's not my wife's car.

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HerkyJim on Wed September 03, 2008 9:00 PM User is offline

Escalade? That's a Cadillac isn't it? How long have they (Escalades) been in production? I've got an '89 Toyota Pickup that went 18 years on the factory charge before it just stopped working. You wouldn't think that Caddy people would worry about a few bucks for parts...?

TRB on Thu September 04, 2008 12:50 AM User is offlineView users profile

What year was it? New Valeo is only $ 200.00!!!

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mk378 on Thu September 04, 2008 1:40 AM User is offline

Do not cheap out on stuff for your wife. It always turns into a classic example of "false economy."

HECAT on Thu September 04, 2008 6:17 AM User is offline

I definitely agree that a Caddy owner should be able to afford, but the tech who chose the $99 unit does not own the Caddy. When I looked up 02 Escalade w/ 6.0L, I showed him...

this one

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Edited: Thu September 04, 2008 at 6:18 AM by HECAT

TRB on Thu September 04, 2008 11:25 AM User is offlineView users profile

Karl did you match up the compressors? That vehicle lists 3 different models,

COMP. TYPE=10S17F; CLUTCH TYPE=4 Gr.; (2nd Design), Exc. Rear AC; New

COMP. TYPE=10S20F; CLUTCH TYPE=4 Gr.; w/Rear AC; New w/Clutch

COMP. TYPE=H6-SW; CLUTCH TYPE=4 Gr.; (1st Design), Exc. Rear AC; New w/Clutch

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HECAT on Thu September 04, 2008 4:37 PM User is offline

No I have not seen it myself. If he wants to order one, I will be sure we do investigate further. I do believe he said it did not have rear air.

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bohica2xo on Fri September 05, 2008 4:23 PM User is offline

Karl:

He is building you a nice test article... the condensor.

With two failed compressors, the primary filter (condensor) must be getting full. Of course the weather is cooling off a bit, so the "howcome it dont kool?" question will come next spring. Of course by then the fan clutch on an '02 will be about half dead too. After this "pro" works on it some more it will need a simple TSR to work well again.

B.

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NickD on Fri September 05, 2008 4:47 PM User is offline

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I definitely agree that a Caddy owner should be able to afford,

Ha, after my Continental blew it's cork, right after my divorce, and a zillion dollars in debt, only car I could afford was a Cadillac. Nobody wants one because they are too complicated and too expensive to repair. It's a 92, and you just try and afford to buy a 92 Honda in 99, now those are the guys that are rich.

HECAT on Fri September 05, 2008 5:09 PM User is offline

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Originally posted by: bohica2xo
Karl:



He is building you a nice test article... the condenser.

B.


I am ready for it!

I am pretty sure he understands, and has been flushing. But his inquiry about flushing out the debris from the unit he took from the parts store counter, has definitely shaken my confidence in the PRO status.



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mjlinder on Sat September 06, 2008 12:15 PM User is offlineView users profile

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Originally posted by: HECAT

I just don't understand why he would even have left the store with that one.


For the same reason that a friend of mine installed a rebuilt long block that he purchased from one of the big parts chains. We unwrapped it and it was covered with machining debris. I told him to send it back. He called the store and they told him that it was normal and that it would flush itself out and just be sure to change the oil filter after the break-in procedures. So he installed it anyway. It was less than a month later that he was calling me to help him pull the engine because he had no oil pressure.

HECAT on Sun September 07, 2008 10:20 AM User is offline

mj,

Funny how they accept the counter guys advice over ours. I think in many cases it is because the counter guys solution is easier; even though we are warning (from experience), that it will not work.

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chris142 on Sat September 13, 2008 11:54 AM User is offline

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Originally posted by: HECAT
I do believe he said it did not have rear air. It doesn't now since the rear valve is plugged up with metal from the dead compressors.

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